I'm interviewed by Jeanne Ives on her podcast, "The Real Story"

 

Jeanne Ives ran as a true conservative again Bruce Rauner and narrowly beat the incumbent governor. She's still active as one of the genuine voices of conservatism in Illinois.

We talked about Illinois politics, the captured media and lots more. We also discussed my book, "The Governor You Don't Know."  You can get a PDF or an audio version here: https://youtu.be/RFdUPxnTHbg  It's free.